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This is a Fluorex 65 Watts Model # 9166B. A new electronic technology enables a high output of light from a newly designed compact fluorescent bulb that only needs a minimal amount of electricity to power it.

Tests show that this 65 watt bulb will deliver the equivalent of light to those rated at 500 watts. So a tungsten, halogen, halide or other light rated at 500 watts will output approximately the same amount of light (measured in Lumens) as this 65 watt light will. Pretty impressive stuff.

The bulb is a 4 tube bulb with electronics in the "Mogul Screw Base" (looks like regular bulb base, but much larger) that matches with the electronics in the bulb socket. These bulbs can only be used with the following fixtures: LOA lights: 6065 - 6165 - 9166 - 9265 - 9266

The rated light output on this light in Lumens is approximately 70 per watt. So 70 X 65 watts = 4550 Lumens.

Foot-Candles, Lumens and Lux are just light measurement terms. An easy explanation of one Lux is that 1 LUX = 1 Lumen per Square Meter. You will note that a Lux deals with not only the light output, but the distance from the subject.

The larger the area being illuminated by the light the lower the LUX rating or light intensity. So a light that illuminates at 100 Lumens in a Square Meter would have a 100 Lux Output. Take that same light and illuminate 10 square meters and it would now have a LUX of 10.

So if you need a light for your plants or aquarium and intend on positioning the light to illuminate a square meter, then your fish or plants will be receiving 4550 Lux of light. I hope this helps demystifies this for you.

For more details on these terms and what they mean click here.

4. What is the Color Temperature of this light, I am told I need 10,000K lights for my marine aquarium?

The 'color' of light (the emission amplitude and spectral distribution) can significantly affect plant growth. Low color temperature implies warmer (more yellow/red) light while high color temperature implies a colder (more blue) light. Daylight has a rather low color temperature near dawn, and a higher one during the day.

Our lights offer a rich blue/white light that is rated at 6500 degrees Kelvin. The light as you can see from this chart would be higher then the sun light at noon on a sunny day and similar to the light at full daylight. Some expensive Sodium Bulbs used in plant growth can reach 2100 degrees kelvin, which would be a much warmer light, while others for marine aquariums will be 10,000-12,000 degrees Kelvin which is a Bluer light.

It is necessary for you to understand the specific requirements for the growing or your plants or marine life as they will vary. For coral growth, you should find out if your coral comes from shallow or deep waters. The closer to the surface of the water the more you need a 6500K light. For coral growing deep in the water, (which is darker and bluer), you can use a 10,000K filter gel that we now offer, to convert our standard 6500K bulb to 10,000-12,000K.

Our lighting system is the only system that will allow you to custom tune your lighting needs,
without having to spend a ton of $$$.

Some more links on color temperatures.

NOW YOU CAN GROW AQUATIC PLANTS AND MANY TYPES OF LIVE CORAL

Low Cost Color Filter Gels Change Our 6500K lights From 5000K Up To 12,000K or higher

We have just received our shipment of the new color filter gels. These remarkable gels will enable us to offer an easy solution to those customers who prefer a more amber light or a bluer light for some of their deep water coral. Our new gels (# 3206 - 1/3rd Blue) will convert our 6500K light up to 10,300K light with approximately a 20% loss of light transmission. This means with the gel on your light you will get approximately 3500 Lumens of light per light.

As you know the deeper the coral comes from the less light it receives and the bluer the water, so know what your coral requires and adjust the light to that requirement. No need to buy other lights or expensive actinic bulbs, you can not do it all yourself with our complete marine aquarium system.

We also offer a second gel (# 3203 - 3/4 Blue) that will boost the color temperature up to 12,000K. So now everyone can custom color our lights for their individual taste or needs. Some customers have even asked for Warming Filters and we have these arriving shortly and will post that information with pictures as soon as they arrive.

See our options list at our auctions for more information and click on this link to read all about these wonderful filter gels.
Roscoe Laboratories is the world leader in the filter gel industry and have provided their products for,
theater, motion picture production and many other industrial and artistic projects.

Read More On Filters And How Easy They Install On These Lights

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Wow...thanks to some of my customers for this one. For those of you that want to understand what PAR rating mean, please go to this forum for a good discussion on PAR and whether or not the numbers really mean anything in growing plants or marine live stock.

I have spoken to our OEM who manufacturers our base units for the PAR rating or our lights and they claim this is a non issue and more of a marketing gimmick then any actual concern on their lights. I am not quite sure myself and have read many articles with differing opinions. So on this one you are on your own guys.

for those of you that really believe what some grow and aquarium light manufacturers claim, I can tell you that all the research you will do still comes back to the same thing...will our lights grow your plants or coral and the answer over and over again from over 400 happy customers over the past 5 months is a resounding yes. Check my feedback and feel free to contact any customers that have purchased these lights. I am sure you will find they do the job better then lights costing hundreds of dollars more. Don't be fooled by fancy marketing copy, scientific mumbo jumbo. I have spent time reading many points of views on this and other lighting subjects only to come away with the simple conclusion that most of it is pure marketing copy by grow light manufacturers.

Does anyone out there still believe that all the drugs and natural ingredient junk they sell in health food stores really live up to their claims? Do you really believe you can make $800,000 in a few months by joining in on the chain letters you have been getting in the mail? Well if you answered yes to any one of these questions then I want to offer you a great deal on the Brooklyn Bridge :-)

The color of a light source entails a complicated relationship of different factors, that are important in determining the right light source for your garden or aquarium.

I actually did a search on the net and found some great information about lighting in a Marijuana Grow FAQ. I do not sell my lights for this purpose and if I know you are using it for that purpose, I will not sell them to you.

But read the information here, seems these guys know all about plant growth.

The light box measures 12.5" Long X 8" Wide X 5" Deep from the front of the lens cover to the back of the box.

Well growing plants in an aquarium is more then just having the proper amount of light. Many plants both land and water require certain conditions to thrive. In an aquarium it is necessary to do the proper research on the fish you intend to keep and match the plants to the fish. An example would be setting up a tropical fish tank with fish from the Amazon basin. These would include many Cichlids like Angel fish, Discus, Jack Dempsey, Convicts, Oscars and others. These fish (other then the ones that will rip the plants out or eat them) require slightly acidic water and therefore plants have to be matched to this water. Amazon Swords and other plants are perfect here.

If however you have a nice live bearer fish tank filled with Black Mollies, Guppies, Platy's and others they prefer a more neutral PH water (7.0-7.6) and any plants pt into these tanks should also meet these water specs to thrive. I have a tank with many varieties of mollies and have filled them with many bunch plants that are growing so fast that the fish and snails can't eat them fast enough. With 2 lights on my 55 gallon tank, I can not only see daily plant growth, but also fish growth on my fry (babies).

Optimal fresh water plant light sources are 6500K (which these lights are) and enough Lumens of light to simulate sunlight (which these lights have). So the simple answer to this question is YES, this light will do the job.

8. I have a marine aquarium and want to grow live coral, can I use these lights?

When it comes to how corals grow, each category of animal requires its own unique lighting requirements, but many share one common trait; photosynthesis in order to survive.

This light will grow live coral and your marine life will thrive. The light intensity and the color temperature are what you need to grow most species of coral. That said, you should read as many opinions as you can that relate to your set up. By simply doing a google search as I did you can find many pages of information on "growing live coral"

Here is an excellent link that I think will be of interest: Growing Live Coral Read here from an article at about.com

Our complete Marine Solutions will grow any type of coral hard or soft and will do it better then lights costing hundreds of dollars more. Don't let our low cost fool you, these lights are the best lights in the world and complete adjustable by the user for any specific requirements.

Please read Question 4 and Question 24 for a more extensive answers to this question.

Please click here to view a page I did comparing halides vs. my lights...I think after reading the information there, you won't purchase Halides or you will replace your current ones with my lights.

You won't need a chiller unit with these lights because they run cool and won't heat the water and kill your live stock as Halides might

Some customers have asked for filters to drop the color temperature of these lights for use in Tropical Biotope Aquariums. They need a light that will emit 5700K so we are now offering a new filter to do just that. Email me for more information and your specific needs. I can supply filters to adjust my lights to just about any color temperature you will need.

See some amazing Biotope Aquariums at: VECTRAPOINT

I have a standard cover on my aquarium and have the lights sitting directly on the glass with no ill effects to the fish or glass. It does not raise the aquarium temperature to dangerous levels as Halides might and are warm to the touch.

We are now proud to offer a set of 4, high quality, clear, self stick "Bumpers" or feet that will adhere to the front lens of our lights. These bumpers will help keep the lens scratch free and raise the lights off the top from 1/2" " to allow for air circulation, which will keep your glass top even cooler.

Using all of the visible colors in sunlight, the value of a a light source is measured by how well it renders all colors of the visible spectrum. The Color Rendering Index (CRI) is measured on a scale of 1-100 this lamp measures approximately 84 CRI. The light provides an exceptional blue-rich light made up of pure white light with a high CRI which results in create color and contrast and an overall sharper images.

Regular light bulbs provide an orange reddish tint on objects and ordinary fluorescent bulbs can cause a head aches and eyestrain. Blue-rich light sources will improve vision and brightness perception for interior conditions, while making the owner happier and able to handle mental tasks better.

This High Output light will blow away any traditional fluorescent tube light. Traditional Fluorescent will give you about 2.5 times the light that an ordinary light bulb would give you. So a 40 Watt Fluorescent will be equal to a 100 Watt bulb tungsten bulb. Our new Electronic Fluorex 65 Watt Bulb (power consumption of bulb) is so efficient it will give you about 8 Times the light output or 500 Watts of Light Output, now how does that relate to energy costs?

Please click here to view a page I did comparing halides vs. my lights...it has an eye opening breakdown on costs and savings. You will save enough in a few months using my lights to pay for them. As much as an 87% savings per year. Go from $200-$300 per light per year in cost, down to $25 per year, amazing..

Yes, we now offer our hand sprayed BLACK lights at the same cost as our previous Bronze Lights. Our costs have sky rocketed on the manufacturers bronze lights, so we have decided to go back to spraying the outer cases ourselves. We will be offering a few options including our new Black Hammered Finish which will resemble a metal lamp housing and looks very cool indeed. Photos will follow shortly so if you want these, please request them when ordering. Please allow 48 hours for us to produce these Black Hammered Finish lights for you.

Cost via Air Parcel Post is only $22 for one and becomes much less expensive on each additional light you buy. On all orders for 2 lights or more I will now insure the shipment for $100 to give us some means of tracing a shipment should that be necessary. Some customers prefer Express Mail Service when ordering a number of lights and the difference at that point is only a few dollars more. Email me for more shipping information if you need it.

International shipments to Europe can run as much as $35-$40 for one light and less for each additional light ordered at the same time.

These lights are made for the US electrical system which is 110 Volts. Most international systems require 220 Volts. In order to use our lights you must use a "Step Down Converter or a Transformer". These are devices that will take your 220 V and step it down to 110 V. The converter is relatively inexpensive and the transformer is a bit more. I offer them as an accommodation to my customers but cannot be responsible if they fail due to electrical issues or malfunction and cannot replace any lights or bulbs because of this. It is important to test these before hooking up our lights to them to make sure they are functioning properly.

Some systems around the world may not be able to run these lights even with the converter or a transformer due to erratic electrical issues or continuous voltage spikes. The converter should be removed from the main electrical source when not in use, the heavier transformers can stay on and be used continuously according to manufacturers information. If you want to order either, then please make sure to order it when you order the lights so you can save on the shipping and handling. For more information you can see both of them at my accessories page.

Our bulbs are rated to last a full 10,000 hours. This means they will last three years if you use them 10 hours per day for every day of the year. The bulbs are readily available from me and many US and internet dealers. We offer them at $16 without any shipping fees, if ordered at the same time as the light and $20 if ordered separately.

Some customers want to have a spare in the event of accidental breakage and I think that is a good idea, especially for my international customers who may not find the bulbs readily available in their country.

Unfortunately I cannot guarantee against a shippers mishandling of my carefully packed lights and it is possible that a bulb will come in damaged. For this reason it might be smart to take optional insurance or Pay Pal's insurance on your purchase. The cost to return a damaged bulb by mail could be half the cost of buying a new bulb.

I recommend purchasing one extra bulb for every two lights you buy. This wa you will also have a spare no matter what happens. Bulbs have a 2 year manufacturers warranty so you can return it to the original manufacturer for replacement if it fails under normal use. Frankly the cost of a replacement bulb is so minor, it might not make sense to even bother sending it back when I can replace it for only $16, but that is your option.

Not actual size - The base of this bulb is called a "Mogul Base"
and is much larger then a common light bulb.

Fluorex 65 Watts Model # 9166B

Designed to be used with lights: 6065 - 6165 - 9166 - 9265 - 9266

Buy Them From Me @ $16.00 - No S&H if ordered same time as light

The parts we purchase directly from the OEM manufacturer and is similar to those used in their other outdoor full spectrum flood lights, but different. What we use is the base unit and bulb which makes this light a great grow or aquarium light because it is in a weather resistant case. It has an electronic ballast system (doesn't require the old ballasts that hum and get hot) that we have fine tuned to work at its optimum for our use in grow light and aquarium situations. This light now has a fast start, no flicker and continuous operation.

When I began to manufacture these lights I searched all over the country to find the base unit that could offer me bright full spectrum light, cool operation and the workings that would take my modifications. Having an engineering and technical background I began to develop the current lighting system you now see. Lights that will allow full adjustment of color temperature, offer great value compared to other aquarium and grow lights and use very little electricity while supplying the equivalent light as most 500 Watt lights.

These lights were designed to give you high quality, low cost and years of consistent use at low cost. Do not confuse these fully customized lights with similar looking flood lights, they are not the same.

Our Grow Lights are shipped with a unique Invisible Hanging Harness which offers a great way to hang these lights. A hanging ceiling hook is also available to make hanging the grow lights from your ceiling and easy job.

Aquarium Lights are shipped with 4 of our new "Bumpers" that are made to protect the light from excessive heat and scratches when using the lights directly on top of the aquarium glass cover. They do not include the Hanging Harness which is available for this light as an option.

Finally we hand spray each case in a Black Hammered finish (3 coats of spray to insure long life) for our Aquarium customers, a color not available from the manufacturer. In other words we Re-Manufacturer the light from start to finish.

WARNING: I do not recommend anyone doing these electrical modifications or attempting repair of our lights at home. They can be dangerous and can even cause death by electrocution if not done correctly. Customer modification or attempted repairs of our lights will VOID our 90 Day Warranty.

Yes, for U.S. customers only (due to high cost of shipping and duty issues it is impossible to warrant them internationally) although I will be happy to offer advice on correcting most problems to my international customers and replacement parts are readily available if needed.

I offer US customers a 90 Day Limited Warranty. This covers any manufacturing defect in parts and labor, provided the unit has been used for its intended purpose and has not been damaged due to buyer misuse. Opening the unit or bulb for self repair by buyer will void this warranty.

I have made Warranty Registration quite easy. On receipt of your lights and after you have determined that everything is in proper working order, leave positive feedback. This will automatically register your light and my system will leave feedback for you and record the sales information. Failure to leave feedback will VOID this warranty.

Proof of purchase will be necessary should you require warranty service (copy of your Pay Pal payment receipt of the invoice I will send you with your lights is fine) and an authorization for return must be obtained before shipping the unit back. Units must be returned post paid with a check or money order included for $14.95 to cover return shipping. Units will be repaired or replaced at my option. Please see full warranty information and our optional extended warranty program.

The Fluorex Bulb comes with a bulb manufacturer's 2 year warranty.

I do not warrant against bulb damage during transit of your light due to shippers mishandling of the order.

This has become a very popular question. The general rule for Tropical Aquariums is one light for each 18-24" of tank length. I started out with 2 lights on my 55 Gallon tank which is 48" wide and recently added a third light which I actually liked...but after a few weeks noticed increased algae growth, so I have now gone back to the two lights. On my 29 Gallon which is 30" wide where I keep the babies, I am now using two lights.

So depending on the amount of illumination you personally like or your plants might need for vigorous growth you can start with this formula and add if you want a higher degree of illumination later on. On larger tanks from 100 gallons up, the width of the tank (front to back) also becomes an issue in trying to figure out this formula. My 55 is only 12" wide, but a larger tank is usually 18" wide or wider and of course deeper then mine. In these cases I have recommended stepping up the light and even turning them sideways on the tank to get better coverage from the front to the back of the tank. If doing this then I would recommend one light for each 12-15" of length. On a tank that has a length of 60" I would suggest 4 lights minimum.

This recommendation is for tropical or marine aquariums. Remember you must see what type of light your plants or coral will need and this then will dictate the number of lights required for plant and live coral or rock growth. Each light will emit 4550 Lumens of light, so use this as a guide.

I find that I have a healthy amount of nice green algae growing in my tank and since I raise all sorts of molly's that love to eat this algae, I am fine. Once every 7-10 days I will use a scrub pad to clean the algae off the tank glass and do a 20% water change using a aquarium siphon type vacuum so I can get into the gravel and clean it.

My tanks are doing great and my fish are very happy giving me an average of 30 new fry each week. Soon I will have to find people to give the fish too as they are sure to out grow their accommodations. If you live near Hazlet, NJ call me if you want to pick up some lights and some free fish too.

Thanks to my repeat customer Gerard Fox of Canada for this great shot showing 6 Len's Lights on his 230 Gallon Tropical Aquarium
What a great illustration on the proper way to grow lush tropical underwater plants. Remember to avoid too much light and too much food which will only encourage algae growth.

Note: Any light fall off seen in this photo is due to the blocked light from the vigorus plant growth. In Marine Aquariums this is not the case. Please understand that these larger tanks only have a depth of up to 30" or a bit deeper and these lights will easily light those depths without any difficulty.

It has become a real challenge for sellers to make money on eBay and keep their prices low. Between eBay Fees and Pay Pal fees it is not uncommon to pay 15% or more on a sale. You see they charge to place the ad even if the item doesn't sell. So if you have an "Insertion Fee" of $2.40 on an item and you run the item three times and sell one, then the effective Insertion fee on that sale becomes $7.20. Now you must add to that their commissions on the sale which can add another 5.25% to the total. Finally Pay Pal fees can run another 3% (3.5% for international sales, because of a "Cross Border Fee") and you can easily be up to 15% or higher on the cost of the sale.

Who really pays these fees? The customer ultimately pays this because a seller must include his cost of sale into each item sold. So when you see a shipping and handling fee that looks a bit high, you will better understand why. I try to keep my prices low and therefore must pass this "Handling Fee" onto my customers. Now remember that Handling Fees will also include the time and cost of packing materials (Boxes, Styrofoam, packing tape, etc.) and the cost of trips to the Post Office and UPS.

I am happy to save you money on the S&H Fees when you purchase more the then one line. If using the eBay shipping calculator you will notice that one light might cost $15 to ship and two only $20 or so. There is no "Handling Charge" on any lights over the first one, so by all means, try to purchase as many as you think you will need now.

If you are purchasing these lights directly from me by mail order, there is also a savings because the handling fee is less (I don't have to pay eBay fees) and if you use Bid Pay or send a money order, there is another discount (I don't have to pay Pay Pal 3%).

See eBay FEE Schedule here.

It has become quite expensive to not only run auctions on eBay but to pay for the collection of the payments. Normally Pay Pal payments have averaged around 3% of the total payment made (this includes the shipping and handling fees too). Please read the following information that will now be posted on all my international auctions.

Why Do I Prefer Bid Pay On International Orders?

Pay Pal has just added a new "Cross Border" Fee to all international payments. Leave it to them to come up with another fee and a catchy name. As a result the fee is now 3.5% of your purchase amount (which includes the shipping which as you know doesn't go to me). It is now difficult on larger orders to handle this fee plus eBay fees. In addition, Pay Pal will not guarantee any international shipments or payments as they do in the U.S., so a seller can take a huge loss if the account is a bad one or if the buyer is guilty of fraud.

For this reason, I now ask my international customers to pay using Bid Pay. You will pay a payment fee at Bid Pay, but it will be less then the "Handling" fee I would have to add onto this item in order to cover the high Pay Pal fees. Payments made with Bid Pay are guaranteed good, so a seller can rest assured he will be paid when he ships the item.

An example of how crazy this has become...A light could cost $22-$50 to ship to some international customers. The cost of shipping does not go into my pocket, yet Pay Pal will hit me for approximately $1-$2 extra just to collect the shipping fee from my customers. It is harder and harder to make any money on eBay as a seller and believe me, I hate to see my customers being hit with all these fees. This is why I have been trying to keep my prices so reasonable and hope you all understand this and appreciate the value and the service I offer.

It is similar light output, but is a softer, diffused light. Some Halides will actually output as much as 10,000 Lumens of Light and ours will output 4,500 Lumens. Lumens output deals with the distance of the light to the subject and you must remember the Halide will have to be hung much higher above the tank to avoid the intense heat from cooking the fish. This means a rapid drop in light actually hitting the aquarium and the effective Lumens of the Halide vs. the Flourex becomes very close. Remember, our lights actually sit on top of the tank top so they come very close to the same light output as those very hot, expensive and dangerous halides and they won't heat the tank which as you know could wipe out your entire live stock (hence the need for expensive Chiller Units).

As a photographer, I have learned to deal with the amount and quality of light. If I want high contrast, harsh shadows, I would look for a "Hard Light". This is similar to noon day sun shining on your face or the light from a spot light. You know how awful those photos look because of the hard shadows and washed out highlights. When we want to reduce the contrast in an image we diffuse the light and create a softer light. Similar to daylight with a little cloud cover or the soft light coming into a window with white sheer curtains.

So why does the Halide lights look so bright? It is because it is a high contrast, narrow, hard light source. It produces a pinpoint light (like a spot light) and lots of shadow and bright spots in a marine aquarium. Many people however, prefer a softer, or less contrasty light and that is what our Fluorex lights deliver. By virtue of how the light is produced (heated gas creates the light and passes it through a soft white glass housing vs. a clear glass with a red hot element burning to produce the light) we end up with a softer, less contrasty light. A light that will show off your aquarium plants, coral and fish softer and better then the halides.

Some customers have written me to ask why our light doesn't seem to be as bright. Well actually, it is a similar light output as the Halide, but it is a softer more diffused light. It might take a little getting used to, but I can assure you that once you use these lights, there is no turning back. Remember the Light Output in Lux or Lumens is about half of what a 500 Watt Halide will deliver, but given the distance of our lights to your aquarium vs. the Halides which hang above the tank, the difference is not that great.

These lights will grow soft and hard coral...Absolutely

I get asked this and other similar questions all the time and you have seen a other information at Question 4 or Question 8

First let me restate that many types of tropical aquarium plants and marine coral require a certain set of conditions to grow properly. Water quality is high on the list and of course and comes lighting.

You should first decide the type of plants or coral you want to have in your tank, read about the requirements of that particular type of plant or coral and match it to the conditions you intend to have in your tank. Make sure the plants or coral require a high output 6500K (Kelvin) light. Some people like a 10,000K light because they might prefer the bluer color it imparts on the tank, but really has to do with the depth in the ocean that your coral will grow. Soft and hard coral growing in shallow water will love our 6500K lights.

hard coral that grows in deep dark, blue water might prefer the 10,000-12,000K light and we can now offer an inexpensive option to easily adjust your current lights to what ever color temperature you require. Please review Question 4 and read about our new Roscoe Filter Gels. These will not only save you a ton of money over other systems, but will now give you the ability to keep your coral and live stock healthy and growing.

Some people have told me they have a mixture of the two types of lights Actinic lights and mine, to up the wave length (or degrees Kelvin) to have just the color combination they might like. Either way, our lights are once again the best and lowest costing solution to any of your lighting needs.

Next question is how much light do you need for your tanks. Even if you have a huge tank with a 48" depth, this light will do the job. Even if you hang it over the tank a few feet from the top, there will be enough light. Determine how much light the tank really needs (how many Lumens or Lux of light is recommended) or if you like a bright lit tank or not.

This light outputs 4550 Lumens per light, same as a 500 W Halide. Finally determine how many lights you will need for your aquarium. You might want to have less or more space between the lights to simulate bright daylight, sundown or evening.

In the past 7 months I have sold over 600 lights on eBay and as you can see from my profile, all of my grow light and aquarium light customers seem to be quite happy with the lights. I have only had reports of successful plant and growth of all sorts of coral or aquarium live stock. As a matter of fact, these lights do so well at growing beneficial algae and marine food, that they are often bought to light Refugiums. Now with our new filter options, you can make it even easier to control the look and quality of the light in your aquariums.

I have found a wealth of information on the Drs. Foster and Smith's Live Aquaria web site. They sell all sorts of marine live stock and corals and have complete listings of most corals and their requirements. You will see they recommend traditional compact fluorescent as well as Halides. Of course they don't know that our lights even exist or that they will blow away any compact fluorescent now available for marine aquariums, proof one more time that our lights are the correct choice.

Please look at this listing for Purple Acropora Coral from Fiji and note their recommendations. Then go and view all the other coral and what they require and compare that to what you are buying or currently own. This information I think will convince you that these lights are the best in the world for any marine set up. Remember our lights are only sold on eBay and mail order through our web site. Retail stores do not know they even exist, so please don't write me and tell me that "the guy in the fish store told you they aren't any good" why, because they don't know about these lights and we want to keep it that way for now.